“A turning point was when we started getting hired by clients to be a partner rather than a vendor.”

Derek joined Dave Hale as a guest on the Journey Map podcast. Their conversation covered Derek’s path from being a designer to taking the leap to a business owner, the impact that Storybrand’s messaging framework has had on Sussner’s approach, the process behind Sussner starting their own podcast, and why partnering in business with his wife Tessa was one of the better decisions he made along the way.

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